Maggie Ayre meets Jules Deelder

Jules Deelder (© Gerard Stolk/Flickr)

As part of her series on city rivalries, Maggie Ayre talks to Jules Deelder, poet and performer. With his Rotterdam heart, he hates Amsterdam, its mentality, its soccer club (Ajax), etc. He’ll say anything that comes out of his head in this often amusing, always rambling (unedited) conversation. The item ends with several minutes of street ambiance.