As part of her series on city rivalries, Maggie Ayre talks to Dutch poet and performer, Jules Deelder. With his Rotterdam heart, he hates Amsterdam, its mentality and its soccer club, Ajax. He’ll say anything off of his head in this often amusing, always rambling, unedited conversation. The item ends with several minutes of street ambiance.
Interviewer: Maggie Ayre
Recorded: October 20, 2000