This is one of the surviving programmes from a series. Guus Geist meets Bernard Haitink, already a big name in the world of conducting, and talks about his career up until then. What is a conductor (a “complex person”) , his most important words (“too fast, too slow, too loud”), loves jazz for the freedom the musicians have to improvise, hated Mahler when he was young (“too emotional”). Conducting a “phoney profession” sometimes. They also discuss his opera career. Very interesting and relaxed interview.