In this unedited interview, Martha Hawley meets Dutch vocalist Greetje Bijma. She uses her voice as a musical instrument to produce sounds that create a certain feeling. Words of songs tend to require thinking first and may get in the way of feeling. She has worked with composers (Louis Andriessen) and musicians but now is doing solo solo-performances, with voice improvisations on poems, etc. In the interview, she talks extensively about music as “a language without words”, and she gives some astounding examples of her talent, in particular snippets of African songs and of a South American Indian language which resembles sounds from the Amazon forest. Quite incredible!